| The War within Islam | |
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| Part III: PAKISTAN'S 'ZAMEER FAROSH' ARMY IS ENOUGH TO DO THE JOB OF KILLING MUSLIMS, SIR: Pakistanis Tell American General Petraeus | |
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From: Raja Choudhary <rajachoudhary1@yahoo.com> Listen to the cries of all Pakistanis. We are tired of seeing dead bodies of innocent women and children of Sindhi, Balochi, Mohajir and Paktoon Muslims. First stop killing Sindhi, Balochi, Paktoon and Mahajir Muslims, and then help all Pakistani to dissolve existing war criminals SECULAR ARMY, and replace it by NEW MUSLIM ARMY. I think you are NOT listening--we all including Punjabi, Sindhi, Balochi, Mohajir and Paktoon Muslims are saying that existing Secular Army has to go. We want ARMY that is built on Islamic principles; also that NEW MUSLIM ARMY should represent all ethnic groups including Sindhi, Balochi, Paktoon, Mohajir and Punjabi Muslims. Right now the existing SECULAR ARMY is 90% Punjabis, and do not represent all ethnic groups. Therefore, it is easy for this Secular ARMY to commit war crimes against every ethnic group. Please show all of us that you are Muslim, then Pakistani and then Punjabi, and not other way around. Punjabis are part of Pakistan citizens, but they have to allow other ethnic groups to get appointed in government jobs.
***** Part III: PAKISTAN'S 'ZAMEER FAROSH' ARMY IS ENOUGH TO DO THE JOB OF KILLING MUSLIMS, SIR: Pakistanis Tell American General Petraeus
From: niyas abbas <niyasabbas@yahoo.co.uk> Date: 2008/11/14 Subject: Re: Do Muslims still need to respect ARABS? Three cases cannot put judgment on whole nations of Arabs. What about the rapes and murders of hundreds of thousands of Muslim girls in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Chechnya, Kashmir etc by the Kuffar?
Mubashir Inayet <minayet@yahoo.com> To: Raja Choudhary <rajachoudhary1@yahoo.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:45:43 AM Subject: Re: Do Muslims still need to respect ARABS? All Arabs (like All Pakistanis) are not ignorant. We need to be respecting all people who behave in a decent, civilized way and express themselves accordingly. Have a great day Mubashir Inayet
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:29:05 PM Subject: Do Muslims still need to respect ARABS? Salam brothers and sisters: Please read the news (removed some sentences) of BBC NEWS, and decide for yourself that if ARABS still need respect from Muslims. Note: I have removed couple of sentences from the news, because I believe that was incorrect and also that offended me a lot.
Forwarded message ---------- From: Mansoor Hallaj <tarot66@yahoo.com> Date: 2008/11/14 Subject: Re: [SindhPost] Separatist Billboards In Western Pakistan To: SindhPost@yahoogroups.com, Raja Choudhary On Wed, 11/12/08, PakNationalists <info.aq.com@gmail.com> wrote: Separatist Billboards The most disturbing part is that the PPP government, which came to power in Islamabad through an arrangement exclusively brokered by Washington, is unwilling to confront the Americans. Now we have 40-feet wide billboards that have mysteriously sprung up on the main roads of NWFP [picture courtesy of BrassTacks] By AHMED QURAISHI Wednesday, 12 November 2008. http://www.ahmedquraishi.com/latest_col.php?id=76 *** Dear Ahmed Sahab, The picture is provided by BrassTacks Calamity i.e. Mr Zaid Hamid who is promoted by another calamity i.e. Pakistani Private TV Channel NEWSONE was very much part and parcel of the same America [during Afghan War as per himself Zaid was active] and let me refresh your memory. Please tell me if the present government is American tout then what about General Musharraf ILLEGAL Military Government from 19990-2008. By the way Musharraf's Devised Rampant and Illegal as well National Security Council is still working rather ruling the country. Would you like to tell as to who are the members of this NSC which is inserted in the 1973 Constitution with the tacit approval of Jamat-e-Islami's Cooperation through LFO/Illegal 17th Constitutional Amendment. Let me ask you one more question regarding this Apostate Zaid Hamid who often raise rhetoric/bogey of Zionist and Hindu lobby working against Pakistan but Zaid is silent on Shaukat Aziz [Former Prime Minister of Pakistan and a tout of know Zionist Paul Wolfowitz (U.S. Deputy Secretary of Defense, and President of the World Bank)] who with the help of General Musharraf Unlawful Regime stole 4 Billion US Dollars from Pakistan.
"QUOTE" Excerpts from a Diplomatic Gathering in 80s "The Soviet Foreign Minister, Gromyko, speaking in New Delhi on February 12, 1980 had warned that, "If Pakistan continues to serve as a puppet of imperialism in the future; it will jeopardize its existence and its integrity as an independent state." The United States, too, could in certain circumstances accept the dismemberment of Pakistan as it did in 1971. Henry Kissinger, the US Secretary of State during President Nixon's administration, had said: "In my conversation with Ambassador Jha I reiterated my constant theme that we considered Indian and American long term interests as congruent .... I emphasized that the United States did not insist that East Bengal remain part of Pakistan. On the contrary, we accepted autonomy as inevitable and independence as possible. A war was senseless; Bangladesh would come into being by the spring of 1972 if present procedures were given a chance. We differed over method, not aim." On October 7, I told WSAG meeting that if India would accept an evolutionary process, it would achieve most of its objectives with our assistance. If they would co-operate with us we could work out 90 per cent of their problems, like releasing Mujib or attaining some degree of autonomy for Bangladesh, and these steps would lead eventually to their getting it all." With the return of a Republican administration and keeping United States global interests in mind, it would be prudent to assume that should the US interests in the future be better served by sacrificing Pakistan or a part of it, Henry Kissinger's successors would not hesitate to do so. Pakistan must, therefore, strive to keep itself together by weakening those forces that are pulling it apart and this cannot be done by force of arms. The use of strong arm methods has shown that the situation did not, to say the least, improve." "UNQUOTE" A renowned Writer Robert D Kaplan had predicted in mid and Late 90s that several countries are not going to survive and India and Pakistan are amongst those countries. Such theories are launched off and on by the power that be [The USA, IMF and WORLD BANK]to prepare the children of the lesser god for more miseries. Read the articles of Robert D Kaplan on Baluchistan and India.
Dr Abul Maali Syed's book The Twin era of Pakistan: Democracy and Dictatorship. Written in 1992, the book predicts an independent Balochistan in 2006. Dr Syed begins his book by saying 'Who would have believed that Balochistan, once the least populated and poorest province of Pakistan, would become independent and the third richest oil-producing country after Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.' This may not be a serious venture, but it should be nevertheless worrying especially if one reads it along with the US National Intelligence Committee that spoke of Pakistan as a failed State in 2015.
The Lawless Frontier by Robert D. Kaplan Atlantic Monthly September, 2000 Baluchistan This past April in Quetta, the bleached-gray, drought-stricken capital of the Pakistani border province of Baluchistan, I awoke to explosions and gunfire. In search of the violence, my translator, Jamil, and I jumped into a four-wheel-drive Toyota and raced through the section of town inhabited by Pashtoon tribesmen. Suddenly we were surrounded by Pakistani soldiers, who forced us out of the car and pointed assault rifles in our faces. While they searched us, I saw two other soldiers with automatic weapons run along a high wall a few feet from where we stood. Shots rang out from inside the adjacent compound. By 11:00 a.m. five people had been killed and twenty wounded, and a large cache of weapons had been confiscated in a raid on the Pashtoonkhwa Milli Awami (Pashtoon National People's Party), a group supporting an Independent "Pashtoonistan" created out of Pakistani territory. The party stood accused of murders and kidnapping. Security forces claimed victory, but reports later circulated that party members had filtered back into the area with weapons. http://www.globalpolicy.org/nations/future/0222rk.htm
THE COMING ANARCHY by Robert D. Kaplan How scarcity, crime, overpopulation, tribalism, and disease are rapidly destroying the social fabric of our planet The Atlantic Monthly, February 1994 http://www.TheAtlantic.com/atlantic/election/connection/foreign/anarcf.htm Pakistan's problem is more basic still: like much of Africa, the country makes no geographic or demographic sense. It was founded as a homeland for the Muslims of the subcontinent, yet there are more sub continental Muslims outside Pakistan than within it. Like Yugoslavia, Pakistan is a patchwork of ethnic groups, increasingly in violent conflict with one another. While the Western media gushes over the fact that the country has a woman Prime Minister, Benazir Bhutto, Karachi is becoming a sub continental version of Lagos. In eight visits to Pakistan, I have never gotten a sense of a cohesive national identity. With as much as 65 percent of its land dependent on intensive irrigation, with wide-scale deforestation, and with a yearly population growth of 2.7 percent (which ensures that the amount of cultivated land per rural inhabitant will plummet), Pakistan is becoming a more and more desperate place. As irrigation in the Indus River basin intensifies to serve two growing populations, Muslim-Hindu strife over falling water tables may be unavoidable. "India and Pakistan will probably fall apart," Homer-Dixon predicts. "Their secular governments have less and less legitimacy as well as less management ability over people and resources." Rather than one bold line dividing the subcontinent into two parts, the future will likely see a lot of thinner lines and smaller parts, with the ethnic entities of Pakhtunistan and Punjab gradually replacing Pakistan in the space between the Central Asian plateau and the heart of the subcontinent. None of this even takes into account climatic change, which, if it occurs in the next century, will further erode the capacity of existing states to cope. India, for instance, receives 70 percent of its precipitation from the monsoon cycle, which planetary warming could disrupt. http://www.theatlantic.com/srch/?words=the+lawless+frontier ------------------- From: Atif <atif98@yahoo.com> Date: 2008/11/14 Subject: Re: THIS IS ONE OF MILLION REASONS WHY WORLD DON'T LIKE ARABS. To: Raja Choudhary <rajachoudhary1@yahoo.com>, Mansoor Hallaj SEEKING PERFECTION IN THE WORLD? Mr. Choudhary Perhaps you and many like you are consumed in your own bias against Arabs. I open my in box every day and get 400 e-mails of which 80% or more tell me how bad Islam is and how terrible and evil us Muslims are...
It does not take one too much time and wisdom to understand the motive of these people who spend their most valuable time to dig dirt from all over the Islamic world, compose them with burning headlines and send out to the rest of the world.
Just today I read one interesting e-mail and within the text when I click on a hyper link it opened a page of an organization that works for Israel...
Yeah Yeah!! I know you will say how typical.. Blame it on Jews...
I am not!!!
What I am telling you Mr. is that if I pay you double of your salary and tell you to look for local news on every western country and send me every news article that present sick behavior and practices of western culture... believe me you will not have enough time and bandwidth to accommodate all the news that you can collect daily... there is only so much overtime you can do...
The point is...
Muslims are not in a "war against west"
The non Muslims that include, Jews, some sects of Christians and Hindus are all in "War Against Islam"
So they are working to dig dirt ..
Their main target is their own audience but unfortunately people like you also become victim of this Psyop
If you compare what goes around in America, EU, India,, China, Isreal and other non Muslim countries you will think of Arabs as saint and angels..
Having Sex with animals, parents, own children, pornography, prostitution, rape, murder, slaughter, corruption, eating filth, living in filth, hunger, poverty, lie, deception, terror, violence ... you can find it all in the societies that call themselves beacon of civilization.
Sir!
Be patient no one is perfect in this world acts of individual is not act of nation or ideology or religion for that mater...
But it may seem to you that Islamic Ideology is really a threat to the world peace after you read these daily dozes.
Atif
Raja Choudhary <rajachoudhary1@yahoo.com> wrote:
Salam brothers and sisters: Please read the following news. These Arabs have given very bad image of Muslims. Whole world thinks that ARABS and Muslims are same thing. However, Muslims are those who follow Islam, and ARABS are those who follow Pre-Islamic culture.
It is good for the free world to keep ARABS as inferior entity. For crying out loud this is 21st Century and ARABS still have Kings, Queens, Princess, Princesses, Ameers, Sultans and Dictators. What a garbage!
By HASSAN ALAOUI, Associated Press Writer Hassan Alaoui, Associated Press Writer – Thu Nov 13, 5:59 pm ET RABAT, Morocco – A Moroccan youth was given a suspended prison sentence for writing that he preferred a soccer club to his king — and now he fears the ruling could jeopardize his future. An appeals court upheld Yassine Belassal's conviction and one-year suspended sentence Wednesday for "disrespect to the kingdom's national motto," authorities said. The 18-year-old karate champion had written "God, Homeland and Barca" on a classroom chalkboard, referring to his favorite soccer club FC Barcelona in Spain. Morocco's motto, however, is "God, Homeland and the King." Defaming King Mohammed VI or the royal family is punishable by up to five years in prison in the North African nation. Belassal had pleaded guilty to the charge, and said Thursday he was happy to have avoided jail time. "But I'm worried for my professional future and for my sports career," Belassal told The Associated Press. "I fear that the national (karate) team won't want me now because of this judgment." His lawyer, Mustapha Errachidi, called the judgment unfair, saying the accusations against his client were murky. Morocco's Human Rights League also criticized the conviction. Its president, Abdelhamid Amine, said the group believes "he never committed any crime."
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Forwarded message ---------- From: Sherwani Mustafa <sherwanimk@yahoo.com> Date: 2008/11/14 Subject: Dear Mr. Obama ! ' When,of Iraq and Afghan Folk, You Think' - Dr.M.K.Sherwani To: sultan.shahin@gmail.com, NewAgeIslam-Newsletter@newageislam.com
Dear Mr. Obama !
Don't belie the hopes of the ecstatic world, When you sit on the mighty American throne; Try to change your country into a sacred place, Make it shine with piety, as once it shone. I know you inherit the legacy of a devil, Whose hands are full of ravages and blood; Who exulted over the wails and shrieks, Who ruined the peace like a miserable flood. Have an intent gaze at Michelle –your wife, When, of Iraq and Afghan folk, you think; Tell her 'someone will rape you in front of me', Imagine her agony, and look at her horrific blink. Cast an affectionate glance at Malia and Sasha, Your lovely daughters of 11 and 7 years old; Tell them ' I will be shot before your eyes', Then face the truth as a person- brave and bold. Bring to your mind the images of countless houses, Which your deadly bombs have reduced to rubble; The mounting heaps of the dead whose life has gone, Like a slight breeze breaks a water's tiny bubble.
**** Dr. Mustafa Kamal Sherwani All India Muslim Forum Lucknow ,U.P.India ------------------------- From: Raja Choudhary <rajachoudhary1@yahoo.com> Date: 2008/11/14 Subject: CREATION OF "ENLIGHTMENT" BY SECULAR ARMY. To: robertkhan@inbox.com, m
Salam brothers and sisters:
Please read the following email of Bashir Abid. Pakistan is ruled by looters and rapists. Whole mess was created by Secular ARMY and we are seeing the consequences. The destruction of Pakistan was started by Secular ARMY soon after the killing of Quaid-e-Milat Liaquat Ali Khan. Please do not forget that Secular ARMY brought back all corrupt politicians including Zardari, Benazir and Nawaz Brothers to speed up the destruction of Pakistan. Do you guys really think that Secular ARMY did not know that Benazir, Zardari and Nawaz Brothers were corrupt politicians? Secular ARMY is a "ROOT CAUSE" of all the problems we are facing now and had faced in the past. Secular Armies have destroyed our Islamic System, because they are SECULARS.
Please pray to ALLAH to save Pakistan and Pakistanis from these existing war criminals, Secular Armies and corrupt politicians.
Aih ALLAH please punish ONLY those Pakistanis who supported Secular ARMY who burned HOLY QURANS burned HOLY MASJIDS and burned schools which taught Qurans. In Pakistan there are some people (anti-Muslims) who still justify the burning of Qurans by Secular ARMY.
ARMY CALLED THESE PHENOMENA, "ENLIGHTMENT".
From: Bashir Abid <bashiraabid@yahoo.com> To: karachiuniversitystudents <karachi
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:45:14 AM Subject: [Outclass] Fwd: [geokarachi] The incident that happened friday night near BBQ-Tonite:
Rizwan Sami <sky.walk3r5@ gmail.com> wrote:
From: "Rizwan Sami" <sky.walk3r5@ gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 01:35:02 -0800 Subject: [geokarachi] The incident that happened friday night near BBQ-Tonite:
The incident that happened Friday night near BBQ-Tonight:
A 30yr old guy went out for dinner with his wife n 3 sisters to bbq-2nyte at around 8:30pm...he had parked his car near the Nissan showroom.... the restaurant had the usual hustle bustle of this peak time n their car was surrounded by many others...after dinner as soon as they got back into their car, a corolla with tinted windows stopped right next to their car, a man came out n asked them to give them whatever cash, jewelry they had---they did as they were told, hoping that the gang would go away as soon as they get sum valuables. But that's not what happened- .....after the "corolla-guy" got cash and sum jewelry, he asked the man to give him one of the 4 women he had with him..(3 sisters n his wife) ...the man was dumbstruck!! ...he said that these were his wife n sisters they were talking about...upon his resistance, they snatched away his wife, bundled her in to their car n drove off. The helpless man could not do anything to save his wife from these ruthless, disgusting people---he just smashed his head with a huge stone he found nearby and died on the spot, and there has been no news of his abducted wife.
Can u guys believe this??....this is the state of our "beloved" country and this is what our government is doing. Members of the ruling party are just globe trotting and the gangsters, kidnappers and other criminals who are under their umbrella are doing as they please, as if they own this place....this is really rampant in areas of clifton and defence....especial ly near the much celebrated "zardari house".....please please please avoid going out anywhere till the situation gets stable...although I don't see that happening in the near future...I can only imagine what the poor kidnapped wife would have had to go thru with---who knows even if she's still alive or not......this is so disturbing.. .please pass on this message to as many females as you know...and even the guys------because when someone aimeds a gun at u, all u can do is freeze and stare.
Once again, please avoid going out---especially after dark...I know it sounds scary and impossible.. .but that's the only thing we can do to stay safe. Regards Rizwan Sami MSN: imrizwan@hotmail. com Url: skywalk3r5.multiply .com --- From: Raja Choudhary <rajachoudhary1@yahoo.com> Date: 2008/11/14 Subject: Re: ARMY IS DISINTEGRATING PAKISTAN.------Supporting Document#1 To: robertkhan@inbox.com,
Salam brothers and sisters:
So far I have made my case that if we are unable to dissolve the existing Secular ARMY and replace it with New Muslim ARMY, then ALLAH forbid within five years Pakistan will be disintegrated into pieces. Now, inshALLAH I will try to provide you the supporting documents that will convince you that Pakistan is going to disintegrate by SECULAR ARMY. The responsibilities of disintegrating Pakistan go to Secular ARMY, their immediate family members and their few supporters (Note: Sindhi, Balochi, Mohajir and Paktoon Muslims do not support people who killed their women and children, and raped their sisters and daughters. MashALLAH some Punjabis also have started to hate the existing Secular ARMY and their immediate family members.)
Pakistan Secular ARMY killed 3,000,000 Bangladeshi Muslims and raped 250,000 Bangali Muslim women and children. Secular Army also killed Sindhi, then Mohajir, then Balochi and now killing Paktoon Muslims. As I mentioned before that because of atrocity, brutality and injustice done by Secular ARMY, all ethnic groups want their separate country where they can live in peace. They want to follow the same goal as Bangladesh. Kashmiris are very lucky that they are protected by SUPER POWER INDIAN ARMY, which will not allow Pakistan Secular ARMY to carry out F-16s and Tank attacks. It should be noted that Pakistan has already started to call Kashmiris as "Terrorists".
Please read the excerpt from the following news.The movement for liberation from Secular ARMY has already started. Please review the new MAP OF PAKISTAN. I strongly believe that if we do not stand peacefully against SECULAR ARMY and their family members, then there won't be any Pakistan left. Therefore, we need to dissolve the existing SECULAR ARMY immediately, and punish them according to Islamic Law and Pakistan Constitution. If we need to amend the constitution to punish people who were/are in the Secular ARMY since 1947, then so be it. However, every punishment should be carried out by Pakistan's Judicial System. Everything should be done peacefully and lawfully.
SINDHI, MOHAJIR, BALOCHI AND PAKTOON MUSLIMS DO NOT WANT TO BE UNITED WITH PEOPLE WHO KILLED THEIR WOMEN AND CHILDREN. PLEASE SAVE PAKISTAN BY DISSOLVING WAR CRIMINAL SECULAR ARMY.
SEPARATIST BILLBOARDS:
"And now we have 40-feet wide billboards that have mysteriously sprung up on the main roads of NWFP showing the map of a new country – Pashtunistan – with meticulously defined borders that incorporate most of northwestern Pakistan. This 'billboard campaign' has to be the boldest statement of rebellion and separatism ever made in the history of nation-states anywhere in the world. Yet it's business as usual in Islamabad." (Ref. Separatist Billboards, Nov. 12, 2008, Ahmed Qurashi) . For complete editorial click http://www.nowpublic.com/world/separatist-billboards-0
Separatist billboards by pakalert
From: Raja Choudhary <rajachoudhary1@yahoo.com> To: robertkhan@inbox.com; muradali_shaikh2@yahoo.co.uk; Ayesha Hassan Afzal <ayesha.hafzal@yahoo.com>; mirsalimraza@yahoo.com; dosama_isb@yahoo.com; Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 4:31:43 PM Subject: Re: ARMY IS DISINTEGRATING PAKISTAN.
Salam brothers and sisters:
Now, it is clear to most of us that "Jageerdars", "Wadeeras", "Sardars", "Nawabs", "Secular Army" and "Politicians" are defending each others to always remain in power (Please read the emails of Turkman and Dr. Shabir Choudhary). Therefore, ARMY allowed criminals such as Nawaz and Zardari to get out of prisons and go to foreign countries, then return back to Pakistan. And now, same criminal who looted Pakistan become President of Pakistan. Most of Pakistanis and politicians of foreign countries know him as "Mr. 10%", however I do not agree with them and I call him "Pathetic Mr. 50%". Well this is beside the point. The Pakistani Secular Army and Politicians are working on a simple principle, "You scratch my back and I will scratch your back". Hence, no politician in Islamic Republic of Pakistan has ever given an idea to change the existing system. Politicians always ask for new elections--One time you will be Prime Minister and Next time I will be Prime Minister. We have already seen Nawaz, Benazir (and now Zardari). Later will be Nawaz's brother and Benazir son Bilawal. But, brothers and sisters they are only the "SYMPTOMS", even if we have 100 time elections but our lives will never change. Therefore, we have to take care of the "ROOT CAUSE", which is existing Secular ARMY. I hope in my previous emails I was able to convince you that we needed to dissolve the entire existing Secular ARMY and replace that with New Muslim ARMY.
There is one more point that I forgot to mention before, that is, now not all Kashmiris want to join Pakistan anymore, because they have seen what happened to the people who joined Pakistan. They have seen that Sindhi, Mohajir, Balochi and Paktoon Muslims who joined Pakistan have suffered a lot in the form of brutality, atrocity and injustice done by Secular ARMY. They feel that they are lucky that they have not join Pakistan, otherwise Secular ARMY might do the same as they are doing in NWFP. They have seen that Pakistan Secular ARMY are using F-16s and Tanks to kill Paktoons, however Indian Army never ever used F-16s and Tanks against Kashmiris.
Therefore, my brothers and sisters we have to dissolve the existing SECULAR ARMY and replace it with New Muslim ARMY that represents all ethnic groups including Paktoons, Sindhis, Balochis, Mohajirs and Punjabis. I hope my Punjabi brothers have now realized that Secular ARMY has created hate for Punjabis among Sindhi, Balochi, Paktoon and Mohajir Muslims. IT SHOULD BE VERY CAREFULLY NOTED THAT IF WE UNABLE TO DISSOLVE THE EXISTING SECULAR ARMY, THEN ALLAH FORBID PAKISTAN WILL BE DISINTEGRATED INTO PIECES WITHIN FIVE YEARS, BECAUSE PAKTOON, SINDHI, MOHAJIR AND BALOCH MUSLIMS DO NOT WANT TO BE UNITED WITH THE PEOPLE WHO KILLED THEIR INNOCENT WOMEN AND CHILDREN. PLEASE SAVE PAKISTAN BY DISSOLVING EXISTING SECULAR ARMY. From: Dr Shabir Choudhry <drshabirchoudhry@googlemail.com> To: Editor@NewAgeIslam.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 12:17:58 PM Subject: Re: ARMY IS DISINTEGRATING PAKISTAN.
Totally agree with that. They have become a class in their own right and protect each other. Jageerdars, army, politicians etc all work together and that is why they have a family member in various parties and army etc.
2008/11/10 S Turkman <turkman@sbcglobal.net>
The Clique of rich and JaagirDaars rules Pakistan doesn't matter, who is in power, Military or a Political Party. They always have one cousin in Police, one in Army, one in PPP, one in PML and one in some Religious Party or group. You can't touch them. They are like Octopus.
From: Raja Choudhary <rajachoudhary1@yahoo.com> To: Editor@NewAgeIslam.com: Sunday, November 9, 2008 9:56:56 PM Subject: Re: ARMY IS DISINTEGRATING PAKISTAN.
Mr. Bashir:
Listen to the cries of all Pakistanis. We are tired of seeing dead bodies of innocent women and children of Sindhi, Balochi, Mohajir and Paktoon Muslims. First stop killing Sindhi, Balochi, Paktoon and Mahajir Muslims, and then help all Pakistani to dissolve existing war criminals SECULAR ARMY, and replace it by NEW MUSLIM ARMY.
I think you are NOT listening--we all including Punjabi, Sindhi, Balochi, Mohajir and Paktoon Muslims are saying that existing Secular Army has to go. We want ARMY that is built on Islamic principles; also that NEW MUSLIM ARMY should represent all ethnic groups including Sindhi, Balochi, Paktoon, Mohajir and Punjabi Muslims. Right now the existing SECULAR ARMY is 90% Punjabis, and do not represent all ethnic groups. Therefore, it is easy for this Secular ARMY to commit war crimes against every ethnic group.
Please show all of us that you are Muslim, then Pakistani and then Punjabi, and not other way around. Punjabis are part of Pakistan citizens, but they have to allow other ethnic groups to get appointed in government jobs.
Even now, if Pakistan Secular ARMY stop killing innocent women and children in NWFP, but still we Pakistanis will dissolve the existing Secular Army and replace it with New Muslim Army. We already have established a momentum and inshALLAH we will replace existing Secular ARMY. However, all laws will be used to dissolve Secular ARMY. Everything will be done peacefully and lawfully. InshALLAH, constitution will be amended if needed to dissolve and punish existing ARMY.
Request for Mr. Robert Khan:
I beg you please do not hate Punjabis. Punjabis love every ethnic group, however Secular Army created an environment that created hate for Punjabis. All Punjabis should support "Peace in Pakistan" and allow every Pakistani to live in peace. Pakistani Secular Army made lives of Sindhi, Balochi, Paktoon and Mohajir Muslim a living hell. If we provide justice to everyone then no one will ask for SEPARATE COUNTRY. Unfortunately, we did not learn a lesson from 1971 separating of Bangladesh. Now, because of atrocity, brutality and injustice done by secular Army, Pakistanis are angry and ALLAH forbid Pakistan disintegrate. Please convince your Paktoon Muslims to remain as Pakistanis, and inshALLAH Pakistan will be transformed to a country where everyone has a right to live in peace.
Your Muslim Pakistani brother Raja Choudhary
From: Dr. T Ahsan <tanweerahsan@hotmail.com> To: bsyed@worldnet.att.net; robertkhan@inbox.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2008 11:26:39 PM Subject: RE: ARMY IS DISINTEGRATING PAKISTAN.
Mr. Bashir,
I had some respect for you But seems that it is receding fast. First of all I would recommend the use of Pakistani for all those who characterize themselves along the lines of their ethnicity.
Seems like you have a deep grudge against so called Mohajirs. FYI, the word "mohajir" was not selected by those who migrated from India. It was given to them since they speak Urdu. This is a fact. Your condescending tone aginst Urdu speaking people is deplorable. You have lived so long in the west BUT unfortunately you have haven't changed. You are a bigot and very Dangerous person. I estimate you must be in your 70s but you are not God Fearing person, although you are approaching very close to him. You hate all except for an ethnic group you belong to. TRUE????????
Don't forget Urdu speaking people and Bengalis have sacrified a lot in creating Pakistan. If you are not aware, Quaid-e-Azam was a migrant and his language was not Punjabi, Pushto, Bengali or Baluchi. Dr. Qadir Khan is an Urdu speaking person who has given the nuclear capability to Pakistan. Dr. Ata-ur-Rahman much respected, Organic Chemist, the only one from Pakistan is also Urdu speaking. Dr. Saleem-uz-Zama was an eminent chemist and was Urdu speaking. I know very many punjabi Professors and scientists that are also very good people as well as Professionals.
And don't get me wrong, Punjabis are very hard working and now educated ethnic group. They are in Military. They like to be in the military like Sikhs. We should have no problem with this. As far as inclusion of other ethic groups in Army is concerned, I think we are making progress.
Pakistan Zinda Bad. Pakistan Army Zinda Bad
From: Bashir Syed <bsyed@worldnet.att.net> To: Robert Khan <robertkhan@inbox.com> Cc: rajachoudhary1@yahoo.com; robertkhan@inbox.com; muradali_shaikh2@yahoo.co.uk; ayesha.hafzal@yahoo.com; dosama_isb@yahoo.com; drshabirchoudhry@googlemail.com; Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2008 8:50:36 PM Subject: RE: ARMY IS DISINTEGRATING PAKISTAN.
You have exposed your rear end by sending this message! For your information I am a Pakistani American having lived in this country for fifty years. Take your Klashnikoff and try to take your revenge in Punjab. Your cousin MUSH initiated attacking Pakistanis in Balochistan, NWFP, and FATA.
B. A. Syed
From: Robert Khan [mailto:robertkhan@inbox.com] Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 10:35 PM To: Bashir Syed Subject: RE: ARMY IS DISINTEGRATING PAKISTAN.
Punjabi Bhai, I have no problem with you if you peoples remain in your area and do not poke your nose into our country Pakhtoonistan. Your dirty killer military is using F-16 evey day to kill my brother and sisters in Bajour, Swat ... SO how could silent on this murders? OK, so when you gets response from our brothers in Lahore, Islamabad, then don't cry. This is about time to STOP attacking Pakhtoonistan, otherwise, we will kick your Punjabi Butt all the way to Lahore. Khan brothers
From: S Turkman <turkman@sbcglobal.net> To: rajachoudhary1@yahoo.com; Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2008 8:13:36 PM Subject: ARMY IS DISINTEGRATING PAKISTAN. Mr. Choudhary, This Bashira is a Punjabi Racist, who believes in Punjabi Supremacy and is a liar. The proof is, he did not include Bengalis in his list of people, who had created Pakistan though they had not only started Muslim League but were the staunchest supporters of Pakistan Movement. FACTS: 1. Baluchis, Saraikis, Pathans and over-whelming majority of Punjabis were never a part of Pakistan Movement. ... (The book 'taureekay Muslim League'). 2. Baluchistan, Kashmir, Bahawalpur of Saraikis, NWF Province and 11 other smaller states were never even part of discussion because they were independent states and never asked for as a part of Pakistan. This is why none of them were part of the Pakistan Mr. Jinnah had gotten from British. All of them were usurped by one or other way by Pakistan after 14th of August, 1947 just like India had done the same to states on the other side of the border. ... (Ref: 1. Radio Pakistan. 2. All India Radio. 3. Newspapers of Pakistan. 4. Newspapers of India. 5. Newspapers of Great Britain). 3. There were some Pathans of NWF Province, who had sided with Moslim League but they had no control over majority of their people.... (Ref: The book 'taureekay Muslim League') 4.. Main backers of Muslim League were Bengalis, Urdu Speaking or Central northern India and most of the Sindhis. (Ref: The book 'taureekhay Muslim League'). 5. Pro Hindu Congres Punjabi Government of Unionist Party in Punjab was arresting Muslim League workers in March 1947, telling the Viceroy that those few dozen people were a grave threat to peace in Punjab. (Ref: 1. All India Radio. 2. All newspapers of India). 6. There were less than 1% Punjabis in Pakistan Movement of Muslim League. (Ref: The book 'taureekhay Muslim League' published in 1946).
He is a liar trying to give an impression that mostly Punjabis apply for jobs in Armed Forces and Police. All Non Punjabi Pakistanis know the truth that they are not accepted by Punjabi Establishment of Pakistan. Punjabi-run Pakistan learned nothing from fall of Dacca and built Atomic Bombs to make sure that next time she starts slaughtering some ethnicity, India would not intervene. The Proof is, slaughter of Mohajirs in 1990's and 5 slaughters of Baluchis since birth of Pakistan.
He is right. Charity starts from home but Wolves of Punjab do not believe in any Charity. All they know is how to eat the smaller animals and hide their tails between their legs in loyal submission, when a bigger animal like USA approaches them.
Pakistan ZinDaabaaD...!
From: bsyed@worldnet.att.net Sent: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 21:26:01 -0600 Subject: RE: ARMY IS DISINTEGRATING PAKISTAN.
Mr Raja Choudhary:
Your response is quite revealing that not only you use a pseudo-nym as a deceptive tool, but also use language unbefitting a Muslim. Pakistan was created for people (Pathans, Baloch, Punjabis, Sindhi, and Immigrants who either opted for better opportunities or had absolutely no hope of survival if they stayed across the border) living within the new geographical boundaries created by the Boundary Commission set up by the British. Unfortunately the immigrants who lost everything in East Punjab and settled in Punjab and other areas have not used the word Mohajir since they crossed the border, but those who opted for better opportunities attached the label Mohajir to identify themselves as some elites who were superior to other citizens of the land called Pakistan. You are right that Pakistan was not created for specific ethnic group of people, but for all within that boundary. Thus your targeting the ARMY based upon the ethnicity of people who serve there is unjustified, as it is a bigoted way to express your thoughts. Why is it that not many people of other ethnicities join the armed forces to defend the country. Same thing we find in America ever since the CONSCRIPTION or Mandatory service was abolished and now majority of people serving in the volunteer army are minorities (i.e. Afro-Americans, Hispanics and others) but the Jews and WASPS don't ever make an issue out of this fact, and on the contrary every one feels proud of serving their country. Even in the Police Force, more and more Afro-Americans are employed, yet no one says that the police treat the white folks in bad manner. There is rampant unemployment in Pakistan, then why don't the able bodied people serve either in the army or the police to bring about law and order. On the contrary other folks take pride in serving the Motor-cycle riding force equipped with Klashnikoffs and do the things that are not Islamic, like kidnapping Dr. Aafia Siddiqui to earn Bounty.
So, Mr. Chaudhry charity begins at home, i.e. each individual (including myself) have to obey the tenets of Islam or the 'laws of the country to make Pakistan a Peaceful country.'
B. A. Syed
From: Raja Choudhary [mailto:rajachoudhary1@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 6:58 PM To: Bashir Syed; robertkhan@inbox.com; muradali_shaikh2@yahoo.co.uk; Ayesha Hassan Afzal; Subject: Re: ARMY IS DISINTEGRATING PAKISTAN.
Mr. Bashir:
Please try to understand Pakistan is not built to serve only Punjabis. Pakistan is for all including Punjabi, Mohajir, Sindhi, Balochi and Paktoon Muslims. 90% of ARMY is Punjabi Muslims. Do you think that all Mohajir, Sindhi, Balochi and Paktoon Muslims do not have eyes and ears and they do not have brain to analyze the facts and figures. Do not support SECULAR ARMY, just because 90% are Punjabi Muslims.
Look at Interial Sindh, Baluchistan and NWFP and compare it with Punjab. We kept Sindh, Baloch and NWFP in STONE AGE. When Mohajirs asked for jobs in Karachi, SECULAR ARMY killed 25000 innocent Mohajirs. Finally, Mohajirs realized that they could not fig ht the SECULAR ARMY, and left Pakistan. Most of the second generation of Mohajir Muslims now live in Dubai, US, Australia, U.K., and Canada. Go and visit Canada--you will be amazed that how many Mohajirs live in Canada. Only Mohajirs were able to get foreign visas, because they had education. However, poor Sindhi, Balochi, and Paktoon Muslims are still suffering in Pakistan, because they do not have enough education that could help them to secure foreign visa.
As far as corrupt Musharraf is concerned--Mohajirs love Musharraf because he is a Mohajir, at the same time they hate SECULAR ARMY. Musharraf saved Mohajirs from the brutality and atrocity committed by SECULAR ARMY during Nawaz and Benazir periods. Go and visit Karachi now, and check for yourself that during corrupt Musharraf period Karachi got their fair share of the Federal budget. Do you think Mohajir, Sindhi, Balochi and Paktoon Muslims did not notice that after Musharraf left everyone got silent, even though General Kavani is inflicting more atrocity to Paktoons. General Kaviani is using F-16 to kill Paktoons, but Muaharraf did not use F-16 to attack Paktoons. Go figure.
Look at last 61 years--what we have done to Balochi, Sindhi, Paktoon and Mohajir Muslims. SECULAR ARMY has looted every province. All the development were taken place in Punjab. This is a fact and not a fiction.
If we want Pakistan to be a united as an Islamic Republic of Pakistan, then we have to give opportunities to Sindhi, Balochi, Mohajir and Pakhtoon Muslims. Please note, Pakistan was not built to serve ONLY PUNJABIS.
Raja Choudhary
From: Bashir Syed bsyed@worldnet.att.net Subject: RE: ARMY IS DISINTEGRATING PAKISTAN.
You have every right to express your views, but hatred of people who do not belong to your creed will not make you INDEPENDENT. As a Muslim I believe that All MUSLIMS are Inter-Dependent, as Allah placed us on this planet for a very short time, and LEASED the land to live and conduct our businesses. Ultimately everything belongs to OUR CREATORS, and HE has made it very clear to us to live in harmony with other Muslims or people of other Faiths as well in PEACE. For the sake of argument Musharraf hailed from DELHI and ruled as a Military Dictator for almost a decade, but the Military (as you perceive it) never disobeyed or said that just because he is Urdu Speaking we don't want to serve under him. So Mr.. Sickular, you logic is baseless, because if you are a Muslim,. You wouldn't be talking such nonsense!
B. A. Syed
Retired Aerospace Physicist
From: Raja Choudhary [mailto:rajachoudhary1@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 3:45 PM To: robertkhan@inbox.com; muradali_shaikh2@yahoo.co.uk; Ayesha Hassan Afzal; dosama_isb@yahoo.com; drshabirchoudhry@googlemail.com; rz634@yahoo.com; Subject: Re: ARMY IS DISINTEGRATING PAKISTAN.
Mr. Robert Khan, and brothers and sisters, Salam Aliakum:
I completely understand your frustration. But, please do not show your anger on PUNJABIS, because now Punjabis have realized that Existing Secular ARMY is creating hate for Punjabis throughout Pakistan. Punjabis also have realized that in order to save Pakistan as one country, the whole ARMY (Military) has to be dissolved and replaced by NEW MUSLIM ARMY, which is also representative of all ethnic groups including Punjabi, Sindhi, Mohajir, Paktoon and Balochi Muslims. It should be very carefully noted that we are not asking for the replacement of "Generals", we are asking for entire Existing Secular ARMY (Military--Army, Air Force and Navy) to be dissolved and replaced by NEW MUSLIM ARMY (Military--Army, Air Force and Navy).
It is enough already. Secular Army killed our Benagli, Sindhi, Mohajir, Balochi and now killing Paktoon Muslims. WE DO NOT NEED THIS KIND OF SECULAR ARMY WHO ENJOY KILLING OUR MUSLIM BROTHERS IN PAKISTAN.
I beg everyone including Paktoon, Sindhi, Balochi and Mohajir Muslims to forgive Punjabis, who were quiet in the past and watching the war crime committed by SECULAR ARMY. But, now Punjabis are with Mohajir, SIndhi, Paktoon and Balochi Muslims and want to replace SECULAR ARMY with NEW MUSLIM ARMY. Punjabis also have realized that NEW MUSLIM ARMY should be representative of all ethnic groups including Sindhi, Balochi, Paktoon, Punjabis and Mohajir Muslims.
I completely understand the anger of different ethnic groups, because existing SECULAR ARMY is 90% Punjabis. Therefore, it is not a big issue for ARMY to kill Sindhi, Mohajir, Pakhtoon and Balochi Muslims.
It is very easy to say, please get united because we are Muslims and we are Pakistanis. But, please be realistic here, we kill innocent women and children of Balochi, Sindhi, Mohajir and Paktoon, and expect them to be united.
Therefore, there is no other option other than to dissolve the entire SECULAR ARMY and replace by NEW MUSLIM ARMY. Also, all the assets of ARMY and their immediate family members should be taken by the government and distribute among poor Pakistanis. Please note, assets included but not limited to Houses, Apartments, Cars, Motor Cycles, Bank Balances, Lands and Businesses. The court should evaluate every person who worked in the ARMY since 1947, and if court finds them that they had stolen the wealth of Pakistan, may be in the form of so called "Benefits" should also be returned to the government and distribute that wealth among poor Pakistanis..
Brothers and sisters--we have to take care of the "ROOT CAUSE" and the "SYMPTOMS" will be cure by itself. Please do not take law in your hands. If we have to amend the constitution to punish and retake Pakistan's wealth from SECULAR ARMY, then so be it. But please do not do anything illegal. Everything has to be done peacefully and per the constitution.
Please give your full support in dissolving existing SECULAR ARMY by NEW MUSLIM ARMY. Please support a revolution called, "REVOLUTION FOR PEACE AND EMANCIPATION". Emancipation from existing Pakistani Politicians and Existing SECULAR ARMY.
IT IS OUR PAKISTAN AND WE WILL PEACEFULLY TAKE OUR PAKISTAN BACK FROM CORRUPT POLITICIANS AND SECULAR ARMY.
Thank you for your consideration.
Your Muslm brothers
Raja Choudhary
Note:
If you agree with me then please write in your own words in all "YAHOOGROUPS", so all Pakistanis can be involved in dissolving SECULAR ARMY and replacing by NEW MUSLIM ARMY.
REQUEST: Please pray for me and for my family.
From: Robert Khan <robertkhan@inbox.com> To: S Turkman <turkman@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2008 11:15:33 AM Subject: RE: [Fwd: ARMY IS DISINTEGRATING PAKISTAN.]
Dear Sir, I fully agreed with you and we should ask UNO for liberation of our land from Punjabis.
Punjabi Military is biggest cult on us, and has to be dissolved. OR we all should seek Independence from Punjab.
I am not anti-Punjabi, but I request them to keep their F shit out of Pakhtoonistan, Sind and Baluchistan. This disease is everywhere from Karachi, Quetta to Peshawar and now killing our Khan brothers in Pakhtoonistan and Baluchistan using US supplied F-16 and Gunship.
YOU M/F PUNJABI ARMY, YOUR TIME HAS ARRIVED AND NO MATTER WE HAVE TO REQUEST INDIA, ISRAEL, USA, UK OR ANYONE TO HELP US TO KICK THESE CULT OUT OF OUR TERRITORY UP TO JEHLUM. AND WE ARE WORKING ON THIS AGENDA.
From: Bashir Syed <bsyed@worldnet.att.net> To: turkman@sbcglobal.net; ayesha.hafzal@yahoo..com; drshabirchoudhry@googlemail.com; rz634@yahoo.com; rw230282@gmail.com; nadia073@gmail.com; minayet@yahoo.com; Subject: RE: ARMY IS DISINTEGRATING PAKISTAN.
The Punjabi hate monger. Namak Haram, is at it again. It appears someone in Lahore offered him Jalaibies in return for favors when he was a child after his family migrated to Pakistan from Delhi and his father got a comfy job in the Media where the Punjabis not only nurtured him but he was also educated by them to learn English and travel on Pakistani Passport in 1973 so that he can dance with Hillary Clinton (as he claims on Internet). Without that basic English knowledge he could not even communicate let alone dare to go near the celebrities to scratch their palms (claiming to be a Palmist & Fortune Teller) to earn more than $20000 each palm reading according to his claims and not even reported to IRS).
Let the web surfers dig out more about him as to what made him run away from Pakistan and assume ASYLUM after which he changed his identity (like a chameleon) from Sumsammuddin Ansari to Samuel U(Turn) Turkman.
B. A. Syed
From: S Turkman [mailto:turkman@sbcglobal..net] Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 12:25 PM Subject: ARMY IS DISINTEGRATING PAKISTAN.
Pakistan is Occupied Territory of Punjabi Army and Police. Now we need US or Indian Army to free us from them..
From: Raja Choudhary <rajachoudhary1@yahoo.com> To: Editor@NewAgeIslam.com Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2008 1:01:03 PM Subject: Re: ARMY IS DISINTEGRATING PAKISTAN.
Salam brothers and sisters:
The purpose of my emails is to provide correct and impartial information. You are the one who has to make a decision, and I am not holding a gun to your head, and saying you have to agree wit h me. I just provide the information, so you can make a rational and unbias decision. Please note that I always provide references so you can verify the information as well. For almost one and half year I was informing about the corrupt politicians and ARMY. I showed you the real pictures of corrupt politicians including Nawaz Badmash Brothers (thieves, killers, "Kuttas), Qatil Bezamir (worst thief and worst killer, "Kutte/Kuttiah"), Pathetic Mr. 50% (thief, killer, "Kutta") and Musharraf (thief, war criminal, "Kutta"). But, Pakistani Politicians (Mother's Sellers, "KUTTAS") are the "SYMPTOMS" and not the "ROOT CAUSE" of the problems that Pakistanis are facing. The looting of Pakistan was started after 1947. Army did not want to bring any faithful and honest politicians. Therefore, Zameer Farosh Army first killed Liaquat Ali Khan in 1951 who was a real leader of Pakistan. Then, Zameer Farosh Army removed another "Honest" and "Intelligent" Prime Minister Khawaja Nazimuddin in 1953 with the help of Ghulam M. ("KUTTA", BASTARD) who was a Governor General at that time. Then again Zameer Farosh Army removed another good and honest leader named Muhammad Ali Bogra in 1955 with the help of Governor General Iskander Mirza ("BIGGEST KUTTA", BIGGEST BASTARD). After that Army allows only "Corrupt" politicians to involve in "Politics", so Army can loot Pakistan wealth as much as possible. Now, Pakistan does not have any good and honest politician.
Look at the current situation; Pakistan economy is almost collapsed and Pakistan needs immediately $5 billion dollars, but ARMY is not helping who has $20 Billion Dollars. GO FIGURE, WHO IS DESTROYING PAKISTAN.
Please note, if you disagree with me, then ask questions so I can provide information so you can be convinced. My goal is to improve the lives of common citizens of Pakistan. MashALLAH, my whole family is enjoying because they live in foreign countries. I want better lives for my Pakistani brothers who are suffering in Pakistan. A lot of Pakistanis left Pakistan not only because of so called "MONEY" but because of corruption and injustice..
Please try to understand that corrupt politicians are ONLY Symptoms and Pakistan Zameer Farosh Secular Army is the root cause of all the problems that we are facing in Pakistan. Therefore, we need to peacefully dissolve the entire Zameer Farosh Secular ARMY (Military) and replace it by NEW MUSLIM ARMY... Please note that I am not asking ONLY to remove Generals, I am asking for the replacement of the entire Zameer Farosh ARMY. If you want to understand the difference between SECULAR ARMY and MUSLIM ARMY, then please read a little bit about Muhammad Bin Qasim (GREAT LEADER) and compare it with the existing Army, inshALLAH you will understand the difference.
REQUEST: If you agree with me, then please pray for me and for my family.
From: muradali shaikh muradali_shaikh2@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: ARMY IS DISINTEGRATING PAKISTAN.
We are a occupied country with finances and arms from the West. West is scared of Islamic civilization, so the West uses all sorts of excuses and proping up corrupt rulers from Morroco to Bangladesh. The armed forces are a curse and burden on the people and the economy. Our armies are strong and brave to kill our own people. BB could not serve well the demands and interests of the West. Now 10% will fulfill her hearts desire. Only Zulfiqar was ok 50:50. Under Yahya, Mush and Kayani Pakistani will be soon going to gutters. Unless we tell the US to withdraw its forces or set a deadline, like our brave people of Iraq are demanding. They want treaty with the US must be open to the people for approval. Read about our brave Iraqi brothers:
US accepts some Iraqi demands
ISTANBUL - The Bush administration accepted some Iraqi demands for changes in a draft agreement governing American military operations after 2008 in a response that U.S. officials called a "final text," reported Bloomberg on Friday.
"Now it is in their court," White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said on Friday. "They'll move forward; I think their parliament's in session the next two weeks."
The White House, Defense Department and State Department all emphasized that they now consider the negotiations finished after Iraqi politicians balked at a deal they said gave them too little say over the U.S. role.
"We believe we have addressed a number of those issues in a way that respects the sovereignty of both countries," Bloomberg quoted State Department spokesman Robert Wood as saying. President George W. Bush sent a letter to Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki with the revised text, Wood told reporters in Washington.
Meanwhile, several prominent Shiite preachers in Iraq gave fiery sermons warning against the signing of a new security agreement, which would keep U.S. forces in the country for up to another three years, reported Agence France-Presse on Friday.
"Every Iraqi should read this agreement and decide for himself whether he agrees or disagrees with it," Sheik h Sattar al-Batat, a follower of anti-American cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, said in the crowded slum of Sadr City .
From: Muhammad Fahad Khan <fahad@laksol.com> Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2008 1:47:02 AM Subject: RE: ARMY IS DISINTEGRATING PAKISTAN
I second Ayesha Hassan! Raja h as been after ARMY for a long time now J Raja bhai, cut this crap…there are bigger problems to be taken care of!
--- On Sat, 8/11/08, Raja Choudhary <rajachoudhary1@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Raja Choudhary <rajachoudhary1@yahoo.com> Subject: ARMY IS DISINTEGRATING PAKISTAN. Date: Saturday, 8 November, 2008, 9:29 AM
Our beloved Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said: "He who amongst you sees something abominable s hould modify it with the help of his hand; and if he has not strength enough to do it, then he should do it with his tongue, and if he has not strength enough to do it, (even) then he should (ab hor it) from his heart, and that is the least of faith ." (Sahih Muslim The Book of Faith [Kitab Al-Iman] Book 001, Hadith 0079)
Salam brothers and sisters:
Pakistan Zameer Farosh Secular ARMY creating hate for Punjabis. Pakistan Zameer Farosh ARMY and their immediate family members looted Pakistan, but Sindhi, Balochi, Mohajir and Paktton Muslims blame Punjabis for the injustice done by ARMY. May be the reason is, Punjabis supported ARMY since 1947. Fortunately, Punjabis have NOW recognized that all the hate for Punjabis is created by Pakistan Zameer Farosh Secular ARMY. Army looted Pakistani innocent citizens and committed war crime against Bengali, Sindhi, Balochi, Mohajir and Paktoon Muslims.
Therefore, all Pakistani Muslims including Punjabi, Sindhi, Balochi and Mahajir Muslims should peacefully rise up against the ARMY and their immediate family members to save Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Existing Pakistan Zameer Farosh Secular Army has to be dissolved and replaced by NEW MUSLIM ARMY. The NEW MUSLIM ARMY should consist of Punjabi, Sindhi, Baloch, Paktoon and Mahajir Muslims.. Pakistanis need MUSLIM ARMY and not SECULAR ARMY.
Please read the news published on Feb. 10, 2008, in Los Angeles Times, and you will then understand that ARMY is responsible for creating hate for Punjabis and that would be a metaphor for disintegration of Pakistan. In order to save our homeland we have to save our Sindhi, Balochi, Mohajir and Paktoon Muslims from the brutality and injustice from Zameer Farosh Secular Army.
Please support a peaceful revolution in Islamic Republic of Pakistan called, "REVOLUTION FOR PEACE & EMANCIPATION". Emancipation from Pakistan's existing politicians (Mother's Sellers, "KUTTAS") and Zameer Farosh Secular Army.
Please read the following excerpt of the news from LOS ANGELES TIMES:
(For complete news click http://articles..latimes.com/2008/feb/10/world/fg-sindh10)
1) Over the years, successive governments have spent billions of dollars on a strong military to hold the nuclear-armed nation together. Yet dysfunction prevails.
2) Pakistan's three minority provinces – Sindh, Baluchistan and North-West Frontier Province – have long contended that Punjab, the most populous province, dominates the federal bureaucracy and gets a disproportionate share of resources.
3) Demanding a share of the government's gas and mineral wealth, Bugti had ordered attacks on gas pipelines and oil installations.
"We have never felt a part of Pakistan," said Sardar Ataullah Mengal, chief of the Baluchistan National Party. "They're colonizing our land and turning our people into a minority. Pakistan doesn't want our people. It wants our resources."
4) Ethnic Pashtuns, who mainly inhabit the country's volatile northwest, also demand that Pakistan's political and economic balance be shifted.
5) Pakistan, or "land of the pure," should be renamed Punjab, for all its bias, Leghari and others believe.
6) "We hate Pakistan," t hey chanted. "We don't want to be part of Pakistan!"
Said Leghari, "People are waking up. It's time to act."
7) "Sindh can survive on its own," said Leghari, who is also a lawyer and activist. "We've got our own port and enough coal to burn for 5,000 years. Pakistan's civil society is broken. There's no free judiciary or press. Who wants to be a part of that?"
8) "We don't feel safe here in Pakistan," Magsi said of Sindh residents, ................."When the soldiers start to kill us, we're not exactly going to present them with a garland of roses."
PAKISTANIS ARE PEACE LOVING PEOPLE AND DO NOT SUPPORT ANY KIND OF TERRORISM IN THE WORLD.
DON'T SELL US GUNS BECAUSE WE NEED BOOKS DON'T GIVE US YOUR CULTURE BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR OWN CULTURE DON'T GIVE US AID BECAUSE WE ARE NOT BEGGAR PAKISTAN IS AN ISLAMIC REPUBIC OF PAKISTAN PAKISTAN IS NOT SECULAR REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN AND PAKISTAN IS NOT HINDU OR QADIANI REPUBLIC OF HINDUSTAN PAKISTAN KA MATLAB KIA LA ILAH HA ILLALLAH WE ARE MUSLIMS FIRST AND THEN PAKISTANIS.. MUSLIMS ARE PEACE LOVING PEOPLE AND DO NOT SUPPORT ANY TERRORISM IN THE WORLD. ISLAM IS ANOTHER NAME OF PEACE, LOVE, HUMANITY AND FORGIVENESS . Our beloved Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said: "He who amongst you sees something abominable s hould modify it with the help of his hand; and if he has not strength enough to do it, then he should do it with his tongue, and if he has not strength enough to do it, (even) then he should (ab hor it) from his heart, and that is the least of faith ." (Sahih Muslim The Book of Faith [Kitab Al-Iman] Book 001, Hadith 0079)
Salam brothers and sisters:
Please include these following few more reasons why Pakistani Muslims including Balochi, Paktoon, Sindhi, Punjabi and Mohajir Muslims HATE the existing Zameer Farosh Army and want to build NEW MUSLIM ARMY which consists of Punjabi, Sindhi, Mahajir, Balochi and Paktoon Muslims. If anyone disagrees with my 26 points, then please provide some rational arguments along with some supporting references.
24) Pakistan Zameer Farosh Army burned our HOLY QURAN.
25) Pakistan Zameer Farosh Army burned down our Holy Masjids.
26) Pakistan Zameer Farosh Army bombed our schools which taugh t Quran.
My brothers and sisters--we can ONLY be united as a one nation, when we provide justice to everyone including Balochi and Paktoon Muslims. If we could not able to dissolve the existing Zameer Farosh Army, then DO NOT ask Balochi, Sindhi, Mohajir and Paktoon Muslims to be united as a PAKITANIS, because Balochi, Sindhi, Mohajir and Paktoon Muslims do not want to be united with people who kill their women and children. We have to create love among different ethnic group by punishing the existing Zameer Farosh Army and their immediate families.
NOTE:
Please spread my message among Pakistanis, because we need help from everyone to dissolve the existing Zameer Farosh Army. It should also be noted that in Pakistan we have already started a peaceful revolution called, "REVOLUTION OF EMANCIPATION".
IT IS OUR PAKISTAN AND WE WILL TAKE OUR PAKISTAN BACK FROM POLITICIANS (MOTHER'S SELLERS, "KUTTAS") AND ZAMEER FAROSH ARMY.
Salam brothers and sisters:
Some people are trying their best to tell Pakistanis that ARMY is doing their best job. Remember, only those people are supporting Pakistan's Zameer Farosh Army who are either in the army or their relative in the army. It should be noted that first time in 61 years of Pakistan's history, Punjabis started to hate the ARMY. I salute Punjabis who now understand that ARMY is responsible for creating hate for PUNJABIS . Different ethnic groups including Sindhis, Mohajirs, Balochis and Paktoons strongly believe that PUNJABIS have eaten their rights. They also believe that Punjabis taken all the government jobs.
Pakistanis started to hate the ARMY, because of the following reasons:
1) Pakistan Zameer Farosh Army killed 3 Million innocent Bangali Muslims. 2) Pakistani Zameer Farosh Army raped innocent Bangali Muslims. Watch these videos:
a) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygv-ClW_IEY&feature=related
b) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhG6hsMHo2A&feature=related
c) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxT0YL9hKE8&feature=related
3) Pakistan Zameer Farosh Army killed Sindhi Muslims during General (R) Zia (thief, killer, "Kutta') time.
4) Pakistan Zameer Farosh Army killed Mohajir Muslims during Nawaz Badmash (thief, killer, "Kutta") and Qatil Bezamir (worst thief and worst killer, "kutte/Kuttiah") periods.
5) Pakistan Zameer Farosh Army killed Balochi Muslims and Paktoon Muslims during General (R) Mushrraf (thief, war criminal, 'Kutta") period.
6) Pakistan Zameer Farosh Army is now killing Paktoon Muslims during Pathetic Mr. 50% (Raja Dahir, thief, killer, "Kutta") period.
7) Pakistan Zameer Farosh Army is SE ...http://newageislam.org/NewAgeIslamArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=982 |
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